tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4667288583830493271.post4446657351861769926..comments2023-10-31T06:14:24.897-07:00Comments on Philosophy in Progress: A Sketchy AestheticsSharon Berryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17434076853502881274noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4667288583830493271.post-10321454186932752512010-01-09T07:50:18.870-08:002010-01-09T07:50:18.870-08:00ooh that sounds plausible, especially in more theo...ooh that sounds plausible, especially in more theoretical arguments about beauty. Do you have any examples in easy reach?<br /><br />I was thinking that normal debates mostly involve things like: you didn't enjoy this because you didn't notice funny passage x, or know fact y about the history of the period, or think about general question z as it relates to the events in the story. <br /><br />In these cases, everyone agrees that failing to notice something, or think about some question, or know some background info is a "deceptive" condition under which to experience art. <br /><br />But are there other cases where we both agree about how something is causally relevant to my experience of a work of art, but disagree about whether this influence is a distorting one or not?<br /><br />maybe...<br />nabokov says `you just liked story S because you identified strongly with the characters, and enjoyed their triumph, not because it's a good work of fiction'<br /><br />anti-nabokov says `yeah I did like story S because I identified with the characters, the fact that it has characters that are easy to identify with is part of what makes it a good work of fiction.<br /><br />is that the kind of thing you are thinking of?<br /><br />p.s. welcome to this blog and thanks for commenting! I'm very curious to hear what someone who has obviously thought about these issues so much more than I have thinks.Sharon Berryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17434076853502881274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4667288583830493271.post-14238422692268116242010-01-05T17:59:15.475-08:002010-01-05T17:59:15.475-08:00In my experience, most aesthetic arguments involve...In my experience, most aesthetic arguments involve one person trying to shove some new deceptive condition into your list to explain why the other wrongly finds object X beautiful. I.e., aesthetic judgments involve prescribing that class of beautiful objects as much as identifying it.David Auerbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07066865720450132692noreply@blogger.com